Press Box Podcast – Episode 51
May 9th, 2012, 12:49 am · 75 Comments · posted by Jimmy Graben
What a wild week in local baseball! On this week’s episode, the A-D sports staff breaks down the Mayor’s Series between Yuba City and River Valley. We’ll preview what lies ahead in the postseason for Mid-Valley baseball and softball programs. Thanks to everyone for the great response last week and your comments. Keep them coming and keep listening!
Baseball breakdown (22:10)
Softball breakdown (19:17)
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I am the one,
You are correct. That practice has been going on for the past three years. There was a game agasint Bear River a couple of years ago and RV was ahead 9-2 in the going into the top of the 6th inning. The RV kid in the dug out was keeping the book at the time. In the 6th inning one RV player makes 4 errors, two balls between his legs and two bad throws (short hops) to 1st. By the middle of the 6th the score was tied 9-9. The kid in the dugout gave all 4 errors the the kid who made the errors. The assistant coach (no longer a coach there) told the kid, “two of those errors where on the first basemen for not making the scoop.” The RV kid keeping the book wouldn’t make the change. The assistant coach took the book from him and for the rest of the season he kept the book.
This is exactly why they call it Daddy Ball at RV. You are making the same decision many are making now with their next group of kids coming up…
That is why my kid coming into high school will not be going to RV next year.
That is why mine didn’t go there this year……….with the new transfer rules in affect for next year I would be amazed if RV doesn’t lose players to Sutter or YC.
Jimmy Graben..
What are thoughts on the new transfer rule that comes into play next year. And for those of you that don’t know there was a big article in the Sac Bee that kids don’t lose a year of eligibility now if they transfer and don’t have to move either.
Wow Factor,
Great question. All three of us will be touching on that topic in this week’s new episode, so make sure to check that out. We’ll also be talking playoff updates. To everyone commenting, thank you for all of your feedback. This is a phenomenal response!!
Jimmy,
What is the easiest way to listen to the podcast as I had issues listening to this last pod cast not sure why but when I clicked on the link it did nothing??
Keep up the great work.
I count my lucky stars everyday as my kid chose Sutter after watching the dysfunctional stuff going on at RV.
Hard to worry about every other kid when daddies are affecting evey decision. Wonder if they’ll sit in on their kid’s job interviews later in life? LOL!
Maybe Dove will make the move to Sutter or YC and leave behind the dysfunctional stuff going on at RV.
Wow Factor,
Hmmm, well, it’s saved as an MPEG-4 audio file, so when you click on it, it should ask you what audio program on your computer you would like to open the file with. Usually iTunes is the best way to listen to them. But hopefully any audio program on you computer will open it for you. Sorry for the trouble.
Yet another unbelievable display of daddy ball at today’s RV playoff game. With the game tied 1 to 1 in the 5th RVs coach unexplainably puts in the assistant coach’s son to pitch. The previous pitcher was doing just fine and the choice to bring in a reliever who hasn’t pitched in months is nothing less than mind boggling!! This is the same player who’s dad/assistant coach manipulated the stats last year both offensively and defensively (his pitching record was listed at 2 wins and one loss when in fact he lost 2 games in last year’s YC versus RV series and last years first round playoff loss to bear river!!) The kid gets shelled, hits batters and walks batters while daddy is calling the pitches. RV escapes the inning only giving up 4 runs but the total disbelief and morale busting choice of this blatant “daddy ball” decision is visible on the the RV players. Somehow the players pull it together (talented but under coached bunch that they are) and squeeze out a win in the bottom of the seventh. What’s especially troubling is that it is my understanding that both the Athletic Director and School Principal have been made aware of the now two full seasons long antics of this statistic manipulation and obviously biased playing assignments to the detriment of the team and its players and have allowed it to continue!! Kudos to the young men of the RV team for powering thru this to capture a wining season and the programs first playoff victory. Shame on the head coach and school administration for allowing this situation to begin in the first place and now continue for 2 years!!!! No wonder good players are fleeing this program!!!
Thank God our kids have a lot of heart or the staff would have lost us another playoff game. This staff needs a wake up call but the administration and AD will do nothing.
We need to clear all of the baseball staff from top to bottom
River Valley would have done well to make a run at Eric Lay, the former Maxwell coach. He commands respect, knows the game, and has a proven track record. Heard the job he did with a bunch of these kids last summer, taking them to State and Regional tournaments in American Legion baseball. Heard he was looking for a change, maybe this wasn’t an option but he would have given instant credibility to the RV program.
Actually… RV needs to get off the track of “replace everybody…” Consistency is the key.
The real issue is that the hiring STARTS with people with a personal agenda and ENDS with people with a personal agenda. That is the process that needs fixing. Since the beginning (outside of Todd Artist, who did a nice job) Sutter Buttes Little League and the Jr. Falcons have impacted every single decision.
It takes leadership and the administration has never made their mark in that area.
Eric Lay would have been great my kid loved playing for the Cats and learned more than than all the years at RV………The RV coaching staff is a Joke and will continue to be a joke until changes are made.
The fact is that Billy doesn’t know BASEBALL and it shows with all the untamed athletes on that RV team which have no respect for him. If you listened to the podcast it is spot on. RV has athletes and YC has baseball players……
wow factor,
The new transfer rule is interesting. However, the district can make it’s own rules in regards to transfers and how they want to do it. Also, as for Sutter. Sutter is a different beast all togehter. YC and RV are in the same school district, so kids have a choice and can go to either one as long as they get an inter-district transfer. Going to Sutter requires and Out-of-District-Transfer. YCUSD since 1995 has allowed those transfers to Sutter, Live Oak, Wheatland etc. However, YCUSD doesn’t have to allow the transfer. If YCUSD said no for example to Dove trying to go to Sutter, Dove would have to appeal to the CIF and have a claim that CIF would have to by in order to override YCUSD (for example calim he was treated unfair). YCUSD has not ever done this but they could. At some point I think YCUSD will stop allowing the transfers to Sutter without a compelling reason. If it was up to me it would have already happended. You have to allow the inter-district, you don’t have to allow the out-of-district.
Dove would fit in well at YC as well as Chad Perry from Marysville
Interesting to see what lies ahead
I can tell you without even going to the game the photo show it all RV HAS NO CLASS IN WINNING OR LOSING.
What are you teaching these kids BILLY……………
This program has no class
There is a difference between celebrating with class and no class and yes I see that we showed no class or no respect to the other team……
But why should we change now
Class? How are these RV players supposed to learn respect and class when the very coaches they play for show them no respect? Stats are manipulated (and Adinistration knows about it!!) so that sons win awards——-daddys coach and only really care about their sons only—they provide “instruction” and “care”about their sons only!! In fact more often than not they beat down and criticize the other players —heaven forbid that another player or players are actually better or more team oriented, because then their stats are fudged/manipulated so that daddys boy “looks” like the star…. If you doubt this go ask any of the RV players, most have witnessed this now for TWO years!!! In fact a varsity assistant coach was caught manipulating stats for the second year in a row in favor of his son!! This was well known and STILL this person is in the dugout!!!! Why?????? Even better look at this year’s Alll League selections— why is a coaches son selected to All League when TWO other players had better league stats and were far more deserving??? Ask the players who they believe should have been selected!!!!! This goes beyond an oversight– this is shameful and absolutely inexcusable!!!
BTW Im not sure I totally agree that mobbing the player who just got the game winning in a tight playoff game hit is totally classless. Perhaps the duration was a bit long….
The dog pile though? Celebrate but not to this extreme. They look like they never won before….Oh yeah this is their first playoff win….
It is pretty bad when our own parents know how screwed up this coaching staff is. RV has a great name………………Way to go Billy, way to go….
Well the dog pile seems to be standard practice in big game wins in baseball and yes a first playoff victory dogpile, especially given what these players have endured for the last few years, seems reasonable to me… Just shorter duration
Daddy Ball so your kids can play is obvious at RV. I don’t know the kid very well but I know his dad. Graham (don’t recall his first name) would have been a senior last year and Bill didn’t allow him to play on the team. The young man was the starting center fielder at RV as a freshmen (remember watching him get two hits off of YC in the YC/RV game). I do know he had some grade issues as a junior and didn’t finish the season. Well, what would have been Graham’s senior year, Billy wouldn’t let him play. Why? I won’t name names because none of this is kid generated, it is all adults. But who got to play if Graham wasn’t allowed to play? Who is his dad? If Graham plays who has to sit the bench. Perfect example of the issues that RV has been going through the past 3 years.
Again, this has nothing to do with the kids. They don’t ask for this, it is the daddy ball mentality that causes this to happen. The kids just want to play. And I still want to see RV win and be successful. Go Honkers and Falcons!